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*Update (as at 27 November 2017):  Subsequent to the filing of the application for leave to appeal with the Supreme Court of Appeal (SCA) in Bloemfontein, the SCA advised that the application should be referred directly to the Constitutional Court. In the circumstances, FOR SA will shortly be filing our application with the Constitutional Court instead.

 

Background

As you may be aware, the High Court of Johannesburg recently delivered a judgment which abolished the historic defense of “reasonable and moderate chastisement”. This has been used by parents for generations as a defense against an assault charge for (reasonably and moderately) disciplining their child/ren.  Please note that this was never a defense to violence and abuse against child/ren, which is clearly a criminal matter where the State has a duty to intervene.

There is an obvious and fundamental difference, however, between moderate chastisement by a parent motivated by love and in the best interest of their child/ren on the one hand, and physical violence or abuse on the other hand.

Following this judgment, there has been a massive public outcry – not only from religious parents, but also from non-religious parents whose parental rights and authority have now been significantly diminished.

FOR SA, who was initially invited by the Court to be a “Friend of the Court” in the matter, is the only party left in the case with the opportunity to appeal this judgment. After careful consideration and the unanimous approval of our leadership team (Michael Cassidy (AE); Moss Ntlha (TEASA); Barry Isaacs (CCC) and Andrew Selley (JoshGen/Four12), we believe it necessary to pursue this legal recourse and have subsequently filed for leave to appeal.  We have been advised that this appeal will be directly to the Constitution Court.

Note: FOR SA’s appeal only relates to the constitutional issue considered by the Court [i.e.] whether reasonable and moderate chastisement is congruent with the Constitution. The appeal specifically does not concern the merits of whether the father’s appeal against his conviction by the Magistrate’s Court on charges of common assault should be upheld.

Here are the main reasons FOR SA believes that an appeal is important:

  1. The judgment circumvents normal legislative process, which is especially important to follow since this decision affects so many citizens.

The judgment circumvents the normal legislative process, which is especially important to follow since this decision affects so many citizens. While High Courts have a constitutional obligation to develop the common law in line with our Constitution, FOR SA’s concern is that the judgment is an over-reach and effectively usurps the power of Parliament, which has the primary responsibility of law reform.  In this regard, we point out that when deliberating the Children’s Act in 2005, Parliament, as the democratically elected representatives of the people of South Africa, made a deliberate and considered decision to retain the right of parents to reasonably and moderately chastise their children as part of SA law. However, in this case and with a stroke of a pen, two judges have now effectively overruled Parliament’s decision and circumvented the legislative process.

  1. Religious rights curtailed.

Freedom of religion, which is granted to all South Africans by section 15 of our Constitution, is doctrinally neutral.  It is given to protect the right of every citizen to believe and to live out their faith, before God and in obedience to the law of the land – without fear of persecution or retribution.

Christian parents in particular differ in their interpretation of the Scriptures (most of which are found in the Book of Proverbs) which focus on the discipline of children by their parents.  Some parents, over centuries, have believed that these Scriptures instruct (or at the very least, permit) moderate and reasonable physical chastisement, usually as a last resort but nevertheless as part of their responsibility to raise their children.  Others interpret this as using other forms of discipline to encourage obedience and “good behaviour” from their children.

A concerning element of this case is that two judges of a provincial division of the High Court have now effectively ruled, for the whole of South Africa, that “it is permissible to require religious parents who believe in corporal punishment to be expected to obey the secular laws, rather than permitting them to place their religious beliefs above [what in the view of the Judge is] the best interests of their children.”

An interpretation of Scripture which is held by many has therefore been declared invalid and if parents continue to follow their conscience, they will now be committing a crime.  This sets an unfortunate and potentially dangerous precedent since religious rights have been curtailed and limited by the judgment.

  1. The rights of children have been ruled to trump parental and religious rights, which sets a dangerous precedent.

While children most certainly have constitutional rights and these rights must be protected, there is a clear recognition in law that a child does NOT have equal rights to an adult in all circumstances – hence the age of consent for sexual activity, the age of voting, laws against drinking and smoking before a certain age, etc. This case has set a precedent where children’s rights have trumped parental and religious rights and this may be extended in future to other areas. For example, in the context of transgender issues, it is quite foreseeable that this case will be used as authority to insist that parental caution and concern be overruled in favour of a young child’s desire for hormone suppressant treatment and/or gender reassignment surgery.

  1. More parenting tools are needed, not fewer.

FOR SA is not for, or against, spanking – but we do support the rights of parents to decide for themselves, according to their moral or religious convictions, how to discipline their child/ren. For many parents, reasonable and moderate spanking – at times, where needed, always in love – is ONE of the methods which is used to raise responsible children who know the difference between right and wrong, but not the only method that parents should employ. We are in favour of more “training tools”, not fewer.

Given that the latest statistics show that over 30 million South Africans live on less that R1,000 per month and in small (often over-crowded) accommodation, there may be no (or very few) alternatives to reasonable and moderate chastisement for parents in these communities.  There may well be no “naughty corner” in a rural dwelling, and what “privileges” do you take away from children who have none?

  1. Criminalising parents is not in the best interests of the family and child/ren.

There is a large body of credible social science that shows that mild corporal punishment is not harmful for children, and may even be beneficial.  This was ignored by the Court, who made a decision that any form of chastisement in all circumstances – regardless of how light, or well-intended – to be detrimental and harmful to children. As such, any parent who uses any form of physical chastisement or restraint on their child, can be charged with the criminal offence of assault, with the following consequences – which may well not be in the best interests of the child:

  • Any report of an assault will likely lead to a highly disruptive investigation, which is certain to strain family dynamics.
  • If found guilty, the parent will have a criminal record for assault of a minor (i.e. child abuse). This is a serious crime, regardless of how minor the “assault” may have been.  It is often grounds for the automatic termination of a contract of employment, sponsorship etc.  It will certainly count against the person when he/she applies for future employment since this a background check is often a requirement.  The resulting financial hardship to the family may have serious long-term disadvantages to the child.
  • A criminal record is a lifetime inhibitor for things like visa applications for travel purposes, which can also have detrimental consequences from an employment perspective.
  • There is the potential for children to “blackmail” their parents and/or for one spouse to use this against the other, especially in divorce proceedings.
  1. The experience of New Zealand shows that this decision is likely to have detrimental results.

It is interesting to note the results from recent surveys in New Zealand, where the “reasonable and moderate chastisement” defense was removed from parents in 2007.  These surveys found that:

  • a third of parents of younger children say that their children have threatened to report them if they were smacked.
  • one in four parents of younger children say that they have less confidence when dealing with unacceptable behaviour from their children.
  • Police statistics show that not a single social indicator relating to the abuse of children that had shown significant or sustained improvement since the passing of the law:
    • there has been a 136% increase in physical abuse
    • 43% increase in sexual abuse
    • 45% increase in neglect or ill-treatment of children.


Support FOR SA

Freedom of Religion South Africa (FOR SA) is dedicated to protecting and preserving the freedoms and rights that the South African Constitution has granted to the faith community. You can help FOR SA protect our freedom by:

  • Praying for us as we defend this precious freedom before government and courts of law;
  • Signing up (at no cost) to FOR SA at http://forsa.org.za/contact-us/join-us/ andsubscribing to our Newsletter;
  • Following us, and sharing our posts, on Facebook  at “Freedom of Religion SA”;
  • Informing us, should you become aware of any case in which religious freedom is threatened;
  • Making a financial contribution to FOR SA at http://forsa.org.za/donate/ As a non-profit organisation, we are entirely dependent upon God’s grace for finances. Your generosity will help make a significant difference as we work to fulfil our mission to keep the Gospel free by advocating for religious freedom. We appreciate every gift, big or small!
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Go out and touch the world today


How can I touch the world
If no one is free to touch me
But she pressed on
And even when weak –
She remained strong
He touched the world
When she pressed on to touch His hem
Even among all of them
And she was healed –
When Power leaving Him revealed
How do we touch the world
Do we shine our light
Do we hide it away
Can we touch the world
Let’s touch the world today
Start with the positive things we say
Also mention the world when you pray
Let them yearn to do things our way
Cause I Am the Potter
We are the clay
Go out and touch the world today

God’s Grace


In the definition of God’s GRACE
We will notice that it’s for every RACE
Whether your the jack or the ACE
In it you’ll find that CE (Christ Endured)
So that we can have life Everlasting

Tithing


Tithing?

The misconception around the topic of tithing starts when people turn to one scripture (Malachi 3:10) for an answer, little do they know that a doctrine is or never was introduced based on just one scripture. The doctrine of tithing is based on an Old Testament law, where it was commanded to the Levites to bring the full tithes of all their flock, fruit, etc to the place of offering. This was a law just as circumcision was a law, just as all the other Old Testament laws.

The word tithes were given to a certain percentage of all the upbrings that the levites had throughout the year, and this percentage normally was ten percent. Tithing was part of the law of old days, but was also done before the law by Abraham and Jacob, but were performed by freewill (Abraham/Jacob) A tithe was never measured in monetary value; it would always be in the upbrings of seed, wines, corn, etc. Please read the following verses from the bible.

(Nehemiah 13:12) Then brought all Judah the tithe of the corn and the new wine and the oil unto the treasuries.

Abraham had done it only once in his lifetime and not weekly, monthly, annually. (Gen 14:20; Acts 17: 11)

(Numbers 18:25-28) And the LORD spoke unto Moses, saying, Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe. And this your heave offering shall be reckoned unto you, as though it were the corn of the threshing floor, and as the fullness of the winepress. Thus ye also shall offer an heave offering unto the LORD of all your tithes, which ye receive of the children of Israel; and ye shall give thereof the LORD’S heave offering to Aaron the priest.

(Deuteronomy 14:22) Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, which the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.

(Hebrews 7:5) And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:

Today’s people and tithing

In the church of today, we still see that tithes are being taken up and brought forth to the pulpit, in most cases they base this purely on the following verse (Malachi 3:8 – 10) Mal 3:8 – 10  “Will a man rob God? Yet you have robbed Me! But you say, ‘In what way have we robbed You?’ In tithes and offerings.You are cursed with a curse, For you have robbed Me, Even this whole nation.Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, That there may be food in My house, And try Me now in this,” Says the Lord of hosts, “If I will not open for you the windows of heaven And pour out for you such blessing That there will not be room enough to receive it.

For many this is what they believe to be the right thing to do, but in the same time, they are holding on to the law and the Word of God forbids holding onto the law. The Bible teaches that if holding on to the law, we are denying that Christ came to free us from the bondage of the law (Galatians 5:1), this merely states that we have no regards for the painful death that He had to go through on the cross on Calvary. The Bible says that if holding on, it is as if Christ had died (and sacrificed himself) in vain, before we decide do give our tithe again, rather think and decide if Christ died in vain or did He die for you and for me?

Don’t get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with giving – don’t look at it as tithing, why should it be ten percent, why should it be to a specific church, what about hungry people close to you, what about giving food to shelters who are feeding hungry people, what about reaching out to those in need of help. In many instances, “pastors” live lavish lifestyles while their congregation had given the last of their last and have the bare minimum to live from. Also note that when you do give, whoever you give it to,  it should be of free will and not because the law or the pastor or the leader or the priest or whoever tell you to do it. If you decide to give, it needs to be out of freewill.

 (Matthew 22:15) Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teach the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou regard not the person of men. Tell us therefore, what thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not? But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites? Show me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny. And he said unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? They say unto him, Caesar’s. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s. When they had heard these words, they marveled, and left him, and went their way. Read Rom 13

What is the law?

The bible declares that the law is only a guide to become “perfect”. The law in the old days refers to the curse that was upon the people of old. When perfection comes, the law is no longer required, let’s use tithing as an example, this was a law, to give ten percent of your upbrings, but Christ is the perfection which has arrived and tithing is no longer required. The law does not set us free, but Christ does. It`s not by the law that we are set free, but by the law we were guided, we were set free by the grace of God. Another interesting thing that I have noticed is that the scripture says that if you uphold one part of the law, it is your duty to uphold the full law, i.e burned offers, sacrifices, etc.

We therefore cannot uphold the law of tithing; we are commanded to uphold all the laws of the Old Testament, which once again will proof that we saying that Christ needed not to lay down His life for us!

Please read the following verses from the bible

(Galatians 3:10)

For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

(Galatians 3:24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

What does Jesus say about tithing?

When you as born again Christian chose Jesus as your master, you were no longer a slave, but you became children of God. When Peter asked Jesus about tithing, he countered with a question: do the kings collect taxes from their own children or from others, ending in him saying that the children that are then free. He said in this same verse that it is fine to give an offer. If we consider ourselves children of God, should we be free from doing this as well or should we still be engaged in paying tithes?

Please read the following verses from the bible

(Matthew 17:24-27) And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? He saith, yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, what thinkest thou, Simon? Of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? Peter saith unto him, of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, and then are the children free? Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.

(Galatians 3:26) For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Jesus and the law

The bible says that Christ has set us free from the curse of old, Christ has set us free from the law of old, by becoming a curse himself. It was never in God’s plan for us as the church to give tithes, the Bible teaches us that we should give from the spirit of god and not because we are obliged to do so. Jesus has set us free. We do not have to be under the bondage of the old law. Christ is not our redeemer for nothing, the Bible says that if you hold onto the law, Christ is of no effect to you, why shall we remain in the law if Christ has redeemed us?

Please read the following verses from the bible

(Galatians 3:13, 14) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hanged on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith

(Galatians 4:1-9)Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, different nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all; But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father. Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world: But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law. To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ. How be it then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods. But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?

(Galatians 5:1)Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

(Galatians 5:13) For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

GALATIANS 4 V 4&5

BUT WHEN THE FULNESS OF THE TIME WAS COME, GOD SENT FORTH HIS SON, MADE OF A WOMAN, MADE UNDER THE LAW, TO REDEEM THEM THAT WERE UNDER THE LAW, THAT WE MIGHT RECEIVE THE ADOPTION OF SONS.

FREED BY HIS AMAZING LOVE

BY LAW, BY GRACE

I WANT TO COMPLETE THE AMAZING RACE

WITH THE COMMAND FROM ABOVE,

ARE WE FREED BY HIS LOVE.

SHOULD WE GIVE BY GRACE,

WE SHOULD GIVE BY CHOICE.

DID THE SCRIBES NOT SEE

WHAT WAS MEANT FOR YOU AND ME?

WE SHOULD NOT GIVE BY WILL OF LAW

JESUS SHOWED US MUCH, MUCH MORE

IF YOU’RE A CHILD OF HIM,

YOU ARE FREED FROM TITHING

PASTORS, LEADERS, SHOULD TEACH THE TRUTH,

JESUS CAME AND FREED US FOR GOOD.

WE SHOULD NOT CLING TO THE LAWS OF THE BOOK.

HE SET US FREE, NOW WE’RE OFF THE HOOK !

Slow Down Fast


Let’s slow down for a while,
Get out the car and walk the mile.
For some this means erasing that smile, 
And just the thought of this could turn them vile.

Do we even cry out enough 
Or have this world become so tough,
We often forget we have to show love 
Or even that we need strength from up above

Sometimes we go way to fast 
But just how long will our strength last
Do we ever learn from our past,

Slow down…

It’s time we stop and break down our gasps

 

Slow down and rest you must 
Slow down you’ve been going too fast 
Slow down now won’t you at last 
Slow down and learn from the past

Humility


Do I possess enough meekness?

What separates my humility from a weakness?

Where do I draw the line,

Or do I just say it is fine?

To be is an instruction from the divine.

 

Should I allow them to walk,

Over me?

Do I join them in the talks?

Which makes “free?”

Be I a hawk,

Or a bumble bee?

 

Do they see Jesus when looking at me?

No one reaches out to touch,

As I pass them by.

When I do pass, do they even see?

Or are they always in a rush,

And later they lie?

 

Sometimes you’ll be the invisible man

And not a popular among the fans.

 

Nurturing Love


Nurturing Love.

Love comes with no terms – it comes with no conditions
Love comes with no but(s) or maybe(s) – it has no if(s), no formulae.
Love is enduring; love wants to let it be!
Love is timeless, it’s under no watch – love’s not time’s fool
No time can take it away, if it can – you have never loved!
Love is not bound by time – love is unconditional
Not here today and gone tomorrow
Look after it well for your love to grow
Love needs to be nurtured –
Or else it will stagnate – or even hibernate
One morning you might think it too late
Assurance advises to think it not –
Love never gives up; it is an ever-fixed mark
Plan the dates to be nice, even at a price to sacrifice
Do not end the romance – use it until the end
Love acquire and love require
Love acquire trust and love require sacrifice at times even a little compromise
They say compromise is wrong
But for the right reason, compromise can be extremely strong
If I be big and strong, but have no love, I will be alone and wrong
Be it that I have might and fame, but lacks love – I’d be just a sight of shame
If I give to the poor, or give my life – without love it means none
Love is so patient and love is so kind, it is so unselfish and so very fine
It does not boast of what it’d done, it does not want the best spot in the sun
Love is righteous, truthful, bearable, believing, hopeful
Love is humble – Love is to help one that might stumble
We should have faith, we should have hope, but best of all we should have love!

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